FAFO x2...
Well, 72 hours have passed. My comments are my own. First, I was not there, I’m not an LEO, and I’m not a lawyer (Intarwebz or otherwise). I am a shooter and instructor.
First, regardless of ‘what’ the videos show, people are going to ‘believe’ what they want to, especially those who don’t like LEOs. And all the Intarwebz experts are jumping all over the bandwagon(s)...
First of all, the officers were performing a Terry Stop, which is legal as they are certified law enforcement, HERE from LII.
First is a video by an actual lawyer who has looked at the legal issues. Note what he says about the events leading to the shooting and the participants backgrounds.
Next is the cell phone video from the officer HERE from NBC.
It is sad that the woman died, but she did it to herself. Panic? No idea... Set up? Probably by her ‘wife’ for a video of some type...
Now let’s contrast the coverage of this with the shots fired in Portland, OR by ICE at a targeted traffic stop against another SUV. How much coverage? VERY little... And most of that was how many were arrested at the Federal facility downtown.
Why? IMHO, because it was two illegals, TdA type, one male and one female. They were shot but not killed after attempting to rundown the ICE officers.
But, to me the question is, WHO benefits from all this crap? WHO is paying these people to protest? WHERE is the money coming from? Peter at BRM, HERE has questions too.
Frey, Walz, the Oregon governor Kotec should all have kept their mouths shut until more information came to light. Now they just look even stupider than normal.
There will be more details coming, which will do nothing but further cloud the issue. Unlike the last administration, I believe this one will actually do a fair job of investigating and provide a report to the public. As to why MPD isn’t getting the data? I have the gut feeling that DHS does not believe MPD will honestly review the data, based on Frey’s comments and ‘threat’ to ICE.
What do I think? Yes, it was a good shoot. I do believe at that instant, the officer was in fear for his life. I do believe his first shot was from in front, and missed the woman, penetrating the headrest next to her head. Why the second and third shots? I think he was still processing threat parameters, and continued to react to that. The entire evolution takes less than 2 seconds from start to finish. If anyone has been shot at or been in combat, or been in a shoot house scenario, yes, time seems to slow down, but your ‘reactions’ still lag reality (or at least I know mine do).
Do you think ‘you’ could have gotten out of the way quicker? Or stopped after one round?
And who benefits from this???


I honestly believe her wife expected her to be shot and killed.
It was a complete set up and either she was willing to die a martyr, or she was just too stupid to realize she had been set up by her wife to die.
Look at the school she put her kids in. One where they're pretty much being taught to be martyrs.
The best quote I've heard about this was from Adam Carolla: 'We've weaponized women'. He totally believes it was a setup as well.
I was just watching the news yesterday, and the Philly police chief was threatening ICE, more than likely in defense of her local fraudsters and their beneficiaries.
Frankly, financial auditors need to do a deep dive colonoscopy on the politicians making threatening statements against ICE, and those politicians' families, to "follow the money." 🤷♂️