I don't think neurodivergence is new. Hell, once I week I was bussed off to another school with the other 'gifted & talented' kids. We were just a bunch of high functioning ADHD kids. Lots of overlap of High IQ kids and neurodivergence, so my sample set is probably a bit skewed. Still, we were expected to function in society at large. We learned when to be loud and weird and when to sit still. Yes, it was hard. Still is if I'm being perfectly honest, but we learned coping mechanisms that didn't require everyone else to make accommodations.
My daughter's a teacher. It is impossible to get the really bad kids out of the classroom. Bad kids? The one who says to himself all day I want to kill my mother and my father. Get the 2-3 bad kids out things would improve dramatically. The parents? All are part of gangs. Street gangs not Mafia gangs. Crips or Bloods , whatever they call them in NY.
All of these "think of the children!" laws that countries are trying/are putting in place, do nothing to save the children and everything to tie into digital ID. So, not Blade Runner, think Minority Report instead.
Yes, children need to be protected from all the smut, but gov't isn't the way to do it.
It's not going to work and using the government to raise your kids is a bad idea. Australia is already a lost cause in terms of the censors running the land but we don't need to be bringing the censors here for some vague pretense of safety. Let's not trash our civil rights 'for the children' more than they are already trashed. Gun free school zones anyone?
When I worked as a loss control specialist for a company insuring the Public Sector, here in NYS in the 2000's, I performed annual inspections on Public Schools and County Jails.
I used to state I'd rather inspect the Jail than Urban Schools.
the high schools? They are terrifying. My husband wonders why I have little faith in the next generation, and frankly? Its what I'm seeing from them. The future is going to be rough. I don't see the best and the brightest and enough kids able to reason and think and dream and understand science and math; we've got a full generation now and another on the way up that thinks the computer can just do it for them. What does that spell for engineering? Medical sciences? Especially when the "doctor" just looks it up on the computer and goes by whatever it says with no real understanding of what they are doing? That's already happening - I had a discussion not long ago with one of my doctors who is a teaching doctor at the local osteopathic school who said he's having that problem right now with students - they don't want to learn how to actually diagnose a patient and reason; they want to just go by the computer's readout.
Our future distopia that is on the horizon isn't going to be blade runner I'm afraid - we're headed straight for idiocracy
Sadly, I don't believe this limitation will work. I believe it will, by making social media scarce, make it more valuable to teenagers and younger.
Also, I've seen parents shoving children at social media to act as babysitter, even some cases of parents shoving AI at the children to have conversations that the parents don't want to have. 🤨
As far as what you saw in CA, Jim, I'm not surprised. I saw behavior patterns trending that way in military schools, and those were where families were more or less involved with their children's educations. Go outside that cohort, and you find parents even less involved, especially in the large urban centers. Some parents are busting arse to put food on the table, but many are on social services, dealing with their own addictions. How can they help a child to avoid the addiction of social media? 🫤
I don't think neurodivergence is new. Hell, once I week I was bussed off to another school with the other 'gifted & talented' kids. We were just a bunch of high functioning ADHD kids. Lots of overlap of High IQ kids and neurodivergence, so my sample set is probably a bit skewed. Still, we were expected to function in society at large. We learned when to be loud and weird and when to sit still. Yes, it was hard. Still is if I'm being perfectly honest, but we learned coping mechanisms that didn't require everyone else to make accommodations.
Now, everyone IS expected to ‘make accommodations’… But you are also correct, you were taught/learned coping mechanisms. Those kids, zip, nada, none!
My daughter's a teacher. It is impossible to get the really bad kids out of the classroom. Bad kids? The one who says to himself all day I want to kill my mother and my father. Get the 2-3 bad kids out things would improve dramatically. The parents? All are part of gangs. Street gangs not Mafia gangs. Crips or Bloods , whatever they call them in NY.
All of these "think of the children!" laws that countries are trying/are putting in place, do nothing to save the children and everything to tie into digital ID. So, not Blade Runner, think Minority Report instead.
Yes, children need to be protected from all the smut, but gov't isn't the way to do it.
I'm sad today, don't listen to me.
It's not going to work and using the government to raise your kids is a bad idea. Australia is already a lost cause in terms of the censors running the land but we don't need to be bringing the censors here for some vague pretense of safety. Let's not trash our civil rights 'for the children' more than they are already trashed. Gun free school zones anyone?
I think this is a great idea. The internet is not a safe place for children. They should not be allowed there. Period.
When I worked as a loss control specialist for a company insuring the Public Sector, here in NYS in the 2000's, I performed annual inspections on Public Schools and County Jails.
I used to state I'd rather inspect the Jail than Urban Schools.
Cellphone zombies, the walking dead.
Not really. The Inmates in jail were much better behaved. The kids, more like savage hoodrats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMGz3sXRhvE
Yeah....prohibition has always worked in the past. Look at how it eliminated alcohol and drug abuse.....
....certainly a better solution than parenting and holding students accountable for their behavior.
the high schools? They are terrifying. My husband wonders why I have little faith in the next generation, and frankly? Its what I'm seeing from them. The future is going to be rough. I don't see the best and the brightest and enough kids able to reason and think and dream and understand science and math; we've got a full generation now and another on the way up that thinks the computer can just do it for them. What does that spell for engineering? Medical sciences? Especially when the "doctor" just looks it up on the computer and goes by whatever it says with no real understanding of what they are doing? That's already happening - I had a discussion not long ago with one of my doctors who is a teaching doctor at the local osteopathic school who said he's having that problem right now with students - they don't want to learn how to actually diagnose a patient and reason; they want to just go by the computer's readout.
Our future distopia that is on the horizon isn't going to be blade runner I'm afraid - we're headed straight for idiocracy
Sadly, I don't believe this limitation will work. I believe it will, by making social media scarce, make it more valuable to teenagers and younger.
Also, I've seen parents shoving children at social media to act as babysitter, even some cases of parents shoving AI at the children to have conversations that the parents don't want to have. 🤨
As far as what you saw in CA, Jim, I'm not surprised. I saw behavior patterns trending that way in military schools, and those were where families were more or less involved with their children's educations. Go outside that cohort, and you find parents even less involved, especially in the large urban centers. Some parents are busting arse to put food on the table, but many are on social services, dealing with their own addictions. How can they help a child to avoid the addiction of social media? 🫤