I really hope this time they are made to pay the price for their sedition cause that is exactly what this is and what the Dems are doing. I’m so tired of them doing egregiously illegal and unethical things like this, getting caught red handed, and then walking away without so much as a slap on the wrist.
My fantasy for retired Officers like Captain Mark Kelly or General Mark Milley is to recall them to active duty. Kelly would come back as an ABF3 [Navy Aviation Boatswains Mate (Fuels), E-4] and be assigned to Shemya Island at the end of the Aleutian Island chain to refuel military aircraft in 10°F weather in the winter, 40°F in the summer. Milley would be a PFC and assigned to Fort Huachuca to issue, launder and repair gym shorts, jock straps, Tee's, socks and tenny runners at the base gym. I'd volunteer to come back as a W-2 or E-7 to supervise them. No pay, but I'd want weekends off and a waiver for PRT.
It must start with impeaching the corrupt judges, and that is a power our elected representatives hold. Look up "Alcee Hastings." The man was convicted of taking bribes as a federal judge after being impeached. He was later elected to Congress from a district in southern Florida, but that's all on the folks voting for the corrupt [censored]. However, impeachment removed him from doing more damage to the federal court system.
exactly! We are not going to see any of the reforms we want until the judiciary is cleaned up. But I honestly have very low expectations there. I’m seeing too many people who are so short-sighted they cannot remember what the last 4 years looked like, they can’t see they are listening to people who are lying to them, and they are falling right in line with the socialist agenda. People who are blaming Trump for things that isn’t Trump and because their completely unrealistic expectations weren’t met in the first 3 months of Trump’s administration.
I just skimmed an article now by Frank Kidd here on Substack that exemplifies that very thing. Its going to be people like that - people who have forgotten the Obama and Biden years, who have so tuned out the left by locking themselves in a bubble that they don’t remember what the left is opening calling for, who are going to let disappointment and the far right agenda and leftish plants convince them Trump is just like the rest and they will sit out the next election cycle and we are going to lose the house or senate or both in 2026 and the White House in 2028.
And yet when that happens, these same people will complain mightily about the results, even though the results are what they are because these people could not see the forest because they were standing nose pressed against the stupid shag bark hickory right in front of their faces!
Also, another thing that I’m sounding the alarm about but seem to be ignored on is this worrisome growing trend among “Christians” of being anti-semetic. I’m very worried about the open calls I’m seeing by even evangelicals to see Israel dismantled, claiming they are devils and anti-Christ and “not true Jews” and the like.
I still stand on the statement that “people are stupid” and “God hit the nail on the head when He called humans sheep.”
This is precisely why we can’t have good things. Human beings will always tear down anything good that comes along. I just hate that I live in the tear down phase, and not the building phase. I often wonder if this is how people who lived in the twilight of Rome felt.
Yup, people. Dogs are often better friends. It seems to be that humanity's future is to become Soylent Green. That's some might noble self-actualization, Huh?
"It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again." - Jame Gumb.
Humans, by their nature, have learned to respond to crises as they come, often forgetting the previous one. And the media pushes these minor crises for eyes on their articles. Is there a problem with American Christians turning against the Jewish people? I highly doubt this because I recall Mark Twain's comment: "Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics." You can fudge numbers to make it look like people are in support of vivisection. 🤦♂️
But, right now, there is money to be made in creating a mini crisis from an expressed disgust by US citizens with sending billions of US tax dollars overseas to support causes and countries that we might not need to. When DOGE tore through USAID, we saw how badly US tax dollars were used overseas. And now, all money spent overseas is suspect. 🤷♂️ Especially, when our younger citizens struggle to find gainful employment and buy homes to start families.
well, my rising concerns about Christians turning against Israel isn't coming from the news; its coming from personal interactions with people who were good friends and strong Christians who have turned in recent years. I've personally lost friendships because of it.
And i do understand people's burden when it comes to costs - I live it myself. I lose 40% of my salary off the top just to taxes alone, taxes that don't help me out because I dont' qualify for the tax breaks (don't have kids) or help with insurance or anything. Which is why I get really tired of the Bernie Sanders's of the world constantly spouting "make the rich pay their fair share!" Cause I certainly ain't rich and I don't like that my hard earned money is being stolen from me by my government to not only care for people too lazy to work for themselves and to give them a higher standard of living than I can afford, but to also fund causes across the the world that I not only don't agree with but which actively undermine our own country.
How many people were charged with Sedition and sent to prison after January 6th?
How many who *weren't even there*?
Yeah, Trump needs to send the DOJ after them. That one needs to be recalled. He needs to set up a nice <s>Kangaroo</s> Court and send them off to prison for a decade or two. After all, turnabout IS fair play.
per SCOTUS in 2024, a state felony conviction, in and of itself, is not a disqualifying event for a POTUS/VPOTUS candidate.
and short of a finding under the 14th Amendment or by Conviction in the Senate, I'm not sure that a Federal felony conviction is a war stopper for someone otherwise eligible to run for President.
Sedition is not a state crime, it's a Federal felony conviction. Constitution says you can't run. Now if Mark Kelly was recalled to service and given bad paper (Dishonorable Discharge) then he also couldn't run. Because that's also mentioned in the constitution.
It's why they never released Kerry's military records - he had a dishonorable discharge and that made it illegal for him to hold office. Now, he got a pardon, but that doesn't take away the fact that he got one - so the Supremes might have had to weigh in on that.
HOWEVER - he ran for office and was elected BEFORE that pardon came down, which is AGAIN a Federal Felony - so Kerry really wasn't legally allowed to run. But the government didn't want us to know that.
A little different from Adam Schiff claiming he had evidence against Trump. That's the difference between Sniffin' Joe and the Donald. I don't believe what was done meets the requirements for sedition, however there are plenty of "crimes" these turds can be convicted of, least of which is losing their jobs. FAFO - they just don't believe it will happen to them...
it all tracks back to Nuremburg. Honestly, we made a mistake there. I understand wanting to hang the evil bastards in the Nazi regime, but we were, frankly, dishonest about it. We hung them for not refusing orders, not for committing atrocities and then losing the war. In doing so we left this legal trap that "if you obey an order that you know to be illegal, the other side, or some other party can prosecute you for the act, with the fact that you were given an order to do it being no defense.
That provides just enough doubt to make things like this seem legit in many eyes. Was it an attempt at insurrection?
Considering Mark Kelly's other behaviors and statements, I believe it was. Kelly is also a gun grabber, and forthright in his belief that only people who say what he approves of saying are allowed free speech.
How many "illegal orders" were given under the Biden and Obama administrations?
Point #1: Why was an experimental drug forced on members of the military? I've seen the video of the member who was forcibly inoculated by five big men and a corpsman, and I think the SecWar might want to start with those men and the officer who gave the order. 🤔 And, just like Rudy Giuliani's take down of the mafia in NYC, all it takes is flipping the little fish to snag the big ones.
"My general told me to issue those orders. Here is the e-mail ordering me to do that. You can talk to [so-and-so], too."
SecWar has Mark Bashaw working for him. The man who was court-martialed for refusing the vaccine under the protections that should've been extended to all members. Turn that man loose on the issue and see what happens.
Heck, let's look at the military chaplains who refused religious protections for the vaccine. Who ordered them to do that?
But, I expect SecWar won't go that route to preserve readiness. 🤦♂️ Yeah, it will stir things up, but the Puzzle Palace and flag officers could do with a dust storm now and then. When members of the government get too comfortable, you get sloth, inefficiency, and members padding their nests. And, while they may wear military uniforms, many of the higher ranks are very much entitled princes.
Personal opinion: Unless they remove the political officers, recruitment and retention will still suffer.
The Dems seem to think that a Court Martial can be overturned by the civilian appeals courts - - are they in for a reality shock! I think they should court-martial any retired or active duty personnel that signs-on to this insanity.
Look to Article 88 - Contempt towards officials- article 933 Conduct unbecoming and good old Article 134 the general article I suspect that these will be simpler to prove than Article 92.
Problem being that any recall and court martial of Sen Kelly is fraught with peril, starting with making him a martyr for the cause, and potentially increasing his street cred for a Presidential campaign in 2028.
I really hope this time they are made to pay the price for their sedition cause that is exactly what this is and what the Dems are doing. I’m so tired of them doing egregiously illegal and unethical things like this, getting caught red handed, and then walking away without so much as a slap on the wrist.
My fantasy for retired Officers like Captain Mark Kelly or General Mark Milley is to recall them to active duty. Kelly would come back as an ABF3 [Navy Aviation Boatswains Mate (Fuels), E-4] and be assigned to Shemya Island at the end of the Aleutian Island chain to refuel military aircraft in 10°F weather in the winter, 40°F in the summer. Milley would be a PFC and assigned to Fort Huachuca to issue, launder and repair gym shorts, jock straps, Tee's, socks and tenny runners at the base gym. I'd volunteer to come back as a W-2 or E-7 to supervise them. No pay, but I'd want weekends off and a waiver for PRT.
From your lips to God's ears, Dale. If they're not executed for their crimes.
It must start with impeaching the corrupt judges, and that is a power our elected representatives hold. Look up "Alcee Hastings." The man was convicted of taking bribes as a federal judge after being impeached. He was later elected to Congress from a district in southern Florida, but that's all on the folks voting for the corrupt [censored]. However, impeachment removed him from doing more damage to the federal court system.
exactly! We are not going to see any of the reforms we want until the judiciary is cleaned up. But I honestly have very low expectations there. I’m seeing too many people who are so short-sighted they cannot remember what the last 4 years looked like, they can’t see they are listening to people who are lying to them, and they are falling right in line with the socialist agenda. People who are blaming Trump for things that isn’t Trump and because their completely unrealistic expectations weren’t met in the first 3 months of Trump’s administration.
I just skimmed an article now by Frank Kidd here on Substack that exemplifies that very thing. Its going to be people like that - people who have forgotten the Obama and Biden years, who have so tuned out the left by locking themselves in a bubble that they don’t remember what the left is opening calling for, who are going to let disappointment and the far right agenda and leftish plants convince them Trump is just like the rest and they will sit out the next election cycle and we are going to lose the house or senate or both in 2026 and the White House in 2028.
And yet when that happens, these same people will complain mightily about the results, even though the results are what they are because these people could not see the forest because they were standing nose pressed against the stupid shag bark hickory right in front of their faces!
Also, another thing that I’m sounding the alarm about but seem to be ignored on is this worrisome growing trend among “Christians” of being anti-semetic. I’m very worried about the open calls I’m seeing by even evangelicals to see Israel dismantled, claiming they are devils and anti-Christ and “not true Jews” and the like.
I still stand on the statement that “people are stupid” and “God hit the nail on the head when He called humans sheep.”
This is precisely why we can’t have good things. Human beings will always tear down anything good that comes along. I just hate that I live in the tear down phase, and not the building phase. I often wonder if this is how people who lived in the twilight of Rome felt.
Yup, people. Dogs are often better friends. It seems to be that humanity's future is to become Soylent Green. That's some might noble self-actualization, Huh?
"It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again." - Jame Gumb.
^ It's a wake up call.
Humans, by their nature, have learned to respond to crises as they come, often forgetting the previous one. And the media pushes these minor crises for eyes on their articles. Is there a problem with American Christians turning against the Jewish people? I highly doubt this because I recall Mark Twain's comment: "Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics." You can fudge numbers to make it look like people are in support of vivisection. 🤦♂️
But, right now, there is money to be made in creating a mini crisis from an expressed disgust by US citizens with sending billions of US tax dollars overseas to support causes and countries that we might not need to. When DOGE tore through USAID, we saw how badly US tax dollars were used overseas. And now, all money spent overseas is suspect. 🤷♂️ Especially, when our younger citizens struggle to find gainful employment and buy homes to start families.
well, my rising concerns about Christians turning against Israel isn't coming from the news; its coming from personal interactions with people who were good friends and strong Christians who have turned in recent years. I've personally lost friendships because of it.
And i do understand people's burden when it comes to costs - I live it myself. I lose 40% of my salary off the top just to taxes alone, taxes that don't help me out because I dont' qualify for the tax breaks (don't have kids) or help with insurance or anything. Which is why I get really tired of the Bernie Sanders's of the world constantly spouting "make the rich pay their fair share!" Cause I certainly ain't rich and I don't like that my hard earned money is being stolen from me by my government to not only care for people too lazy to work for themselves and to give them a higher standard of living than I can afford, but to also fund causes across the the world that I not only don't agree with but which actively undermine our own country.
We live in crazy times, that's for sure
The root problem of bad governance is the electorate. Mencken had something pithy to say about that.
...Hastings. He was a smug, cocky SOB.
How many people were charged with Sedition and sent to prison after January 6th?
How many who *weren't even there*?
Yeah, Trump needs to send the DOJ after them. That one needs to be recalled. He needs to set up a nice <s>Kangaroo</s> Court and send them off to prison for a decade or two. After all, turnabout IS fair play.
no it is not. we do NOT want to make Kelly a living martyr to be run in 2028 for POTUS.
Can run for POTUS if you're in prison with an actual honest-to-god felony conviction, and not a made up one. (Edit: Should have been CAN'T not CAN)
John:
did you mean "can" or "can't?"
per SCOTUS in 2024, a state felony conviction, in and of itself, is not a disqualifying event for a POTUS/VPOTUS candidate.
and short of a finding under the 14th Amendment or by Conviction in the Senate, I'm not sure that a Federal felony conviction is a war stopper for someone otherwise eligible to run for President.
Sedition is not a state crime, it's a Federal felony conviction. Constitution says you can't run. Now if Mark Kelly was recalled to service and given bad paper (Dishonorable Discharge) then he also couldn't run. Because that's also mentioned in the constitution.
It's why they never released Kerry's military records - he had a dishonorable discharge and that made it illegal for him to hold office. Now, he got a pardon, but that doesn't take away the fact that he got one - so the Supremes might have had to weigh in on that.
HOWEVER - he ran for office and was elected BEFORE that pardon came down, which is AGAIN a Federal Felony - so Kerry really wasn't legally allowed to run. But the government didn't want us to know that.
I absolutely love to see these people prosecuted and punished. So tired of it all, to be honest.
Mark Kelly has been an embarrassment since he got into politics.
A little different from Adam Schiff claiming he had evidence against Trump. That's the difference between Sniffin' Joe and the Donald. I don't believe what was done meets the requirements for sedition, however there are plenty of "crimes" these turds can be convicted of, least of which is losing their jobs. FAFO - they just don't believe it will happen to them...
it all tracks back to Nuremburg. Honestly, we made a mistake there. I understand wanting to hang the evil bastards in the Nazi regime, but we were, frankly, dishonest about it. We hung them for not refusing orders, not for committing atrocities and then losing the war. In doing so we left this legal trap that "if you obey an order that you know to be illegal, the other side, or some other party can prosecute you for the act, with the fact that you were given an order to do it being no defense.
That provides just enough doubt to make things like this seem legit in many eyes. Was it an attempt at insurrection?
Considering Mark Kelly's other behaviors and statements, I believe it was. Kelly is also a gun grabber, and forthright in his belief that only people who say what he approves of saying are allowed free speech.
The trouble is that damn Nuremburg decision.
I need to buy popcorn for this.
How many "illegal orders" were given under the Biden and Obama administrations?
Point #1: Why was an experimental drug forced on members of the military? I've seen the video of the member who was forcibly inoculated by five big men and a corpsman, and I think the SecWar might want to start with those men and the officer who gave the order. 🤔 And, just like Rudy Giuliani's take down of the mafia in NYC, all it takes is flipping the little fish to snag the big ones.
"My general told me to issue those orders. Here is the e-mail ordering me to do that. You can talk to [so-and-so], too."
SecWar has Mark Bashaw working for him. The man who was court-martialed for refusing the vaccine under the protections that should've been extended to all members. Turn that man loose on the issue and see what happens.
Heck, let's look at the military chaplains who refused religious protections for the vaccine. Who ordered them to do that?
But, I expect SecWar won't go that route to preserve readiness. 🤦♂️ Yeah, it will stir things up, but the Puzzle Palace and flag officers could do with a dust storm now and then. When members of the government get too comfortable, you get sloth, inefficiency, and members padding their nests. And, while they may wear military uniforms, many of the higher ranks are very much entitled princes.
Personal opinion: Unless they remove the political officers, recruitment and retention will still suffer.
I find I'm grateful that many of them really can't seem to keep their mouths shut in the long term.
The Dems seem to think that a Court Martial can be overturned by the civilian appeals courts - - are they in for a reality shock! I think they should court-martial any retired or active duty personnel that signs-on to this insanity.
Look to Article 88 - Contempt towards officials- article 933 Conduct unbecoming and good old Article 134 the general article I suspect that these will be simpler to prove than Article 92.
Problem being that any recall and court martial of Sen Kelly is fraught with peril, starting with making him a martyr for the cause, and potentially increasing his street cred for a Presidential campaign in 2028.