Ding... Round 432...

India and Pakistan are at it again...

Nuclear powers India and Pakistan are clashing again, and there are claims of aircraft kills from air battles that sound like a hodgepodge of foreign-made fighters.

Pakistani officials said Thursday that the country had shot down five Indian fighter jets and a number of drones since India launched cross-border strikes earlier this week, kicking off a new round of fighting between the nuclear-armed neighbors.

Full article, HERE from Business Insider, and HERE from AV Web.

So, there are reports that more than 125 Indian and Pakistani fighter jets reportedly engaged in a dogfight lasting more than an hour in the early hours of Wednesday.

But interestingly, they are also saying that nobody actually crossed any border, but were firing missiles at each other at ranges of up to 100nm.

If verified, this would be the largest 'dogfight' since WWII...

Of course, all of this is now questionable from 'many' angles... A 'dogfight' but never closing on the enemy, 'reports' of shootdowns, etc.

At this stage I can't help but wonder if some or all of the shootdowns were blue on blue on either or both sides. Especially if you are firing at 'something' beyond visual range (BVR).

FWIW, US policy is that you have to visually ID your target, which is why the F-14s in the US never fired a Phoenix missile in air to air combat, because even though they could get lockups BVR, they couldn't shoot. Iran actually fired more Phoenix missiles than the US ever has.

I think there are WAY too many questions right now, but the one thing that IS apparent is that both sides are continuing to escalate...

Dammit...