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Jack Sotallaro's avatar

As someone who moved from a blue state to a red state, I can say for certain that if you don't leave your blue state mentality there, someone you meet in your new home will tell you about it. You can't want the freedom from the blue tax machine while still wanting blue services. Freedom doesn't work that way. The left coast and the upper right coast are in the Find Out stage right now, after Effing Around for decades.

Lloy's avatar

I'm waiting for them to attempt to enforce the grab based on the back dating, and getting told to pound sand.

Dale Flowers's avatar

I recollect California giving bonuses to California National Guardsmen for deploying in the Global War on Terror and then rescinding that bonus and suing to get it back. You can trust California government Not At All.

Ken Mitchell's avatar

I guess I was just prescient. because I _KNEW_ stuff like that was coming back in 2020, when we sold our house in Sacramento, packed everything and moved to San Antonio, TX. And aside from one week in February, 2021, we've enjoyed the place.

My ONLY regret? Sacramento's "delta breeze", when cool Pacific air would sometimes flow through the Golden Gate and up the Sacramento River to drop summer temperatures from the low hundreds to 75 or so. Nothing like that here in San Antonio! When it's a hot afternoon, it's going to be a hot evening as well.

Dale Flowers's avatar

Still, better to perspire a little in San Antonio than to sweat things out in California, eh?

Ken Mitchell's avatar

Most things are better here in San Antonio. It was easy to get a CCW/LTC (License To Carry) here, while in Sacramento, it was VERY difficult. Most stuff, like electricity and gasoline, is cheaper here. And no State income tax. :-)

Dale Flowers's avatar

Florida here. Freedom is a wonderful thing.

Back Porch Writer's avatar

Frankly, I got nothing for those folks fleeing at the last minute, like people trying to buy their way onto the last lifeboats of the *Titanic.* 🤷‍♂️

And anybody that tries to outlaw BBQ is in for a bad time in the South. 🤦‍♂️

Fredericksburg jury: "Your honor, we the jury find the accused innocent of the charges laid before him. The micro-aggressions committed by the Austin-based Vegan BBQ chain were more than a reasonable person should have to endure.

"We would also like to assess a fine on the BBQ chain for acts of cruelty to tofu."

😁

it's just Boris's avatar

The court fight over the backdated tax charge will be interesting. CA already tried something similar, and lost, when it tried to tax the retirement income of people who worked there and retired out of state. There are differences of course, but California is going to need to rely on the kindness of courts in other states to make any dunning stick.

And yes, the thought that this will be a one-time-only-pinky-swear tax is amusing. To those of us who don't live in CA, anyway. Likewise that the measure hasn't even been voted on yet and they're talking about extending it further.

John Van Stry's avatar

Doesn't matter what the courts say, California will do it anyways. California has a long and storied history about ignoring court orders when it comes to collecting money from people. After all, who has to power to fight them? They will send cops to wherever you are and arrest you. Then haul your ass back to California. They'll seize your bank accounts, your property. They will do whatever they please.

Dale Flowers's avatar

Lord! Who doesn't remember those CHP cops sent to New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina? They weren't Officer Poncherello and Officer Jon Baker. Nope. They were gun-grabbing statists. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/CHP-Swat-Team.jpg/1280px-CHP-Swat-Team.jpg

it's just Boris's avatar

Assuming CA sticks to the richest of the rich to target, they are going after the people best equipped to fight them - the ones who can afford the best lawyers.

John Van Stry's avatar

No, they never stick it to the rich. They use that as an excuse to get the law passed. But the real money is in the middle-class and ALL of these 'only the rich' or 'we're targeting the rich' laws ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS end up being applied to the middle class.

Johnny Oh's avatar

I think that the power is shifting to the places that ALWAYS had it, but didn't use it for cataclysmically stupid things. Everybody does some dumb stuff from time to time, just don't keep doing the dumb stuff because "That's how it's ALWAYS been done." Keep what works, discard or alter what doesn't, and poke as many holes in your "blinders" as you can.